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ralfgommers
Hi all,

For those who did not see the call on the NumFOCUS list, the below may be of interest.

I also have a proposal idea: a redesign of numpy.org. Our website is very poor, both in terms of content and design. If a good designer spends 40 hours on it, that should be enough to change it into something nice (or at least not embarassing).

What do you think? Other ideas?

Cheers,
Ralf




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Subject: Re: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)
To: [hidden email], [hidden email]


There is no specific template, but proposals should be kept under 2 pages. Maximum 1 submission per project.

Required elements of the proposal are: 
  • title
  • project description
  • benefit to project/community
  • project team
  • and budget
Submit proposals to [hidden email]

Best,
Gina

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Carpenter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Is there a format you're expecting for proposals?

Are applications limited to one per project?

Hard to imagine a project won't have something to do with $3K,
so I imagine you'll get applications from all of the projects if
the proposals take less than an hour or two to put together.

- Bob

> On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Gina Helfrich <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Call for Proposals - Small Development Grants
>
> NumFOCUS is asking for proposals from its sponsored and affiliated projects for targeted small development projects with a clear benefit to those projects. This call is motivated by the success of our 2016 end-of-year fundraising drive; we want to direct the donated funds to our projects in a way that has impact and visibility to donors and the wider community.
>
> There are no restrictions on what the funding can be used for. Whether it’s code development, documentation work, an educational, sustainability or diversity initiative, or yet something else, we trust the projects themselves to understand what they need and explain that need in the proposal.
>
> Available Funding:
>       • Up to $3,000 per proposal
>       • Allocated funding is $9,000; depending on the number and quality of proposals this may be adjusted up or down.
>
> Eligibility:
>       • Proposals must be approved by the leadership of a NumFOCUS sponsored or affiliated project.
>       • Proposed work must have a clear outcome, achievable within 2017.
>       • The call is open to applicants from any nationality and can be performed at any university, institute or business worldwide (US export laws permitting).
>
> Timeline:
>       • Mid-March 2017: Call for Proposals released
>       • 3 April 2017: deadline for proposal submissions
>       • 17 April: successful proposals announced
>
> --
> Dr. Gina Helfrich
> Communications Director, NumFOCUS
> [hidden email]
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Re: Fwd: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)

Julian Taylor-3
I have two ideas under one big important topic: make numpy python3
compatible.

The first fits pretty well with the grant size and nobody wants to do it
for free:
- fix our text IO functions under python3 and support multiple
encodings, not only latin1.
Reasonably simple to do, slap encoding arguments on the functions,
generate test cases and somehow keep backward compatibility. Some
prelimary unfinished work is in https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208

- add ascii/latin1 dtype to support a compact python3 string array,
deprecate 's' dtype which has different meaning in python2 and 3
This one is probably too big for 3k though.

On 27.03.2017 10:41, Ralf Gommers wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> For those who did not see the call on the NumFOCUS list, the below may
> be of interest.
>
> I also have a proposal idea: a redesign of numpy.org <http://numpy.org>.
> Our website is very poor, both in terms of content and design. If a good
> designer spends 40 hours on it, that should be enough to change it into
> something nice (or at least not embarassing).
>
> What do you think? Other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Gina Helfrich* <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> Date: Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects
> (sponsored & affiliated)
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>,
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
>
> There is no specific template, but proposals should be kept under 2
> pages. Maximum 1 submission per project.
>
> Required elements of the proposal are:
>
>   * title
>   * project description
>   * benefit to project/community
>   * project team
>   * and budget
>
> Submit proposals to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
> Best,
> Gina
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Carpenter <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Is there a format you're expecting for proposals?
>
>     Are applications limited to one per project?
>
>     Hard to imagine a project won't have something to do with $3K,
>     so I imagine you'll get applications from all of the projects if
>     the proposals take less than an hour or two to put together.
>
>     - Bob
>
>     > On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Gina Helfrich <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Call for Proposals - Small Development Grants
>     >
>     > NumFOCUS is asking for proposals from its sponsored and affiliated
>     projects for targeted small development projects with a clear
>     benefit to those projects. This call is motivated by the success of
>     our 2016 end-of-year fundraising drive; we want to direct the
>     donated funds to our projects in a way that has impact and
>     visibility to donors and the wider community.
>     >
>     > There are no restrictions on what the funding can be used for.
>     Whether it’s code development, documentation work, an educational,
>     sustainability or diversity initiative, or yet something else, we
>     trust the projects themselves to understand what they need and
>     explain that need in the proposal.
>     >
>     > Available Funding:
>     >       • Up to $3,000 per proposal
>     >       • Allocated funding is $9,000; depending on the number and
>     quality of proposals this may be adjusted up or down.
>     >
>     > Eligibility:
>     >       • Proposals must be approved by the leadership of a NumFOCUS
>     sponsored or affiliated project.
>     >       • Proposed work must have a clear outcome, achievable within
>     2017.
>     >       • The call is open to applicants from any nationality and
>     can be performed at any university, institute or business worldwide
>     (US export laws permitting).
>     >
>     > Timeline:
>     >       • Mid-March 2017: Call for Proposals released
>     >       • 3 April 2017: deadline for proposal submissions
>     >       • 17 April: successful proposals announced
>     >
>     > --
>     > Dr. Gina Helfrich
>     > Communications Director, NumFOCUS
>     > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     > 512-222-5449 <tel:512-222-5449>
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Re: Fwd: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)

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On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Julian Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have two ideas under one big important topic: make numpy python3
compatible.

The first fits pretty well with the grant size and nobody wants to do it
for free:
- fix our text IO functions under python3 and support multiple
encodings, not only latin1.
Reasonably simple to do, slap encoding arguments on the functions,
generate test cases and somehow keep backward compatibility. Some
prelimary unfinished work is in https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208

I like that idea, it's a recurring pain point. Are you interested to work on it, or are you thinking to advertise the idea here to see if anyone steps up?


- add ascii/latin1 dtype to support a compact python3 string array,
deprecate 's' dtype which has different meaning in python2 and 3
This one is probably too big for 3k though.

Agreed, that won't fit in such a small grant.

Ralf

 

On <a href="tel:27.03.2017%2010" value="+12703201710">27.03.2017 10:41, Ralf Gommers wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> For those who did not see the call on the NumFOCUS list, the below may
> be of interest.
>
> I also have a proposal idea: a redesign of numpy.org <http://numpy.org>.
> Our website is very poor, both in terms of content and design. If a good
> designer spends 40 hours on it, that should be enough to change it into
> something nice (or at least not embarassing).
>
> What do you think? Other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Gina Helfrich* <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> Date: Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects
> (sponsored & affiliated)
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>,
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
>
> There is no specific template, but proposals should be kept under 2
> pages. Maximum 1 submission per project.
>
> Required elements of the proposal are:
>
>   * title
>   * project description
>   * benefit to project/community
>   * project team
>   * and budget
>
> Submit proposals to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
> Best,
> Gina
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Carpenter <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Is there a format you're expecting for proposals?
>
>     Are applications limited to one per project?
>
>     Hard to imagine a project won't have something to do with $3K,
>     so I imagine you'll get applications from all of the projects if
>     the proposals take less than an hour or two to put together.
>
>     - Bob
>
>     > On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Gina Helfrich <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Call for Proposals - Small Development Grants
>     >
>     > NumFOCUS is asking for proposals from its sponsored and affiliated
>     projects for targeted small development projects with a clear
>     benefit to those projects. This call is motivated by the success of
>     our 2016 end-of-year fundraising drive; we want to direct the
>     donated funds to our projects in a way that has impact and
>     visibility to donors and the wider community.
>     >
>     > There are no restrictions on what the funding can be used for.
>     Whether it’s code development, documentation work, an educational,
>     sustainability or diversity initiative, or yet something else, we
>     trust the projects themselves to understand what they need and
>     explain that need in the proposal.
>     >
>     > Available Funding:
>     >       • Up to $3,000 per proposal
>     >       • Allocated funding is $9,000; depending on the number and
>     quality of proposals this may be adjusted up or down.
>     >
>     > Eligibility:
>     >       • Proposals must be approved by the leadership of a NumFOCUS
>     sponsored or affiliated project.
>     >       • Proposed work must have a clear outcome, achievable within
>     2017.
>     >       • The call is open to applicants from any nationality and
>     can be performed at any university, institute or business worldwide
>     (US export laws permitting).
>     >
>     > Timeline:
>     >       • Mid-March 2017: Call for Proposals released
>     >       • 3 April 2017: deadline for proposal submissions
>     >       • 17 April: successful proposals announced
>     >
>     > --
>     > Dr. Gina Helfrich
>     > Communications Director, NumFOCUS
>     > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     > <a href="tel:512-222-5449" value="+15122225449">512-222-5449 <tel:<a href="tel:512-222-5449" value="+15122225449">512-222-5449>
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Re: Fwd: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)

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On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 3:33 AM, Julian Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
- add ascii/latin1 dtype to support a compact python3 string array,
deprecate 's' dtype which has different meaning in python2 and 3
This one is probably too big for 3k though.

probably -- but not THAT big -- it seems pretty straightforward to me.

The bigger challenge is deciding what to do -- the bikeshedding -- and the backward incompatibility issues. IIRC, when this came up on the list, there was nothing like consensus on exactly what to do and how to do it.

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On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Ralf Gommers <[hidden email]> wrote:


On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Julian Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have two ideas under one big important topic: make numpy python3
compatible.

The first fits pretty well with the grant size and nobody wants to do it
for free:
- fix our text IO functions under python3 and support multiple
encodings, not only latin1.
Reasonably simple to do, slap encoding arguments on the functions,
generate test cases and somehow keep backward compatibility. Some
prelimary unfinished work is in https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208

I like that idea, it's a recurring pain point. Are you interested to work on it, or are you thinking to advertise the idea here to see if anyone steps up?

More thoughts on this anyone? Or preferences for this idea or the numpy.org one? Submission deadline is April 3rd and we can only put in one proposal this time, so we need to (a) make a choice between these ideas, and (b) write up a proposal.

If there's not enough replies to this so the choice is clear cut, I will send out a poll to the core devs.

Ralf

 


- add ascii/latin1 dtype to support a compact python3 string array,
deprecate 's' dtype which has different meaning in python2 and 3
This one is probably too big for 3k though.

Agreed, that won't fit in such a small grant.

Ralf

 

On <a href="tel:27.03.2017%2010" value="+12703201710" target="_blank">27.03.2017 10:41, Ralf Gommers wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> For those who did not see the call on the NumFOCUS list, the below may
> be of interest.
>
> I also have a proposal idea: a redesign of numpy.org <http://numpy.org>.
> Our website is very poor, both in terms of content and design. If a good
> designer spends 40 hours on it, that should be enough to change it into
> something nice (or at least not embarassing).
>
> What do you think? Other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Gina Helfrich* <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> Date: Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects
> (sponsored & affiliated)
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>,
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
>
> There is no specific template, but proposals should be kept under 2
> pages. Maximum 1 submission per project.
>
> Required elements of the proposal are:
>
>   * title
>   * project description
>   * benefit to project/community
>   * project team
>   * and budget
>
> Submit proposals to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
> Best,
> Gina
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Bob Carpenter <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Is there a format you're expecting for proposals?
>
>     Are applications limited to one per project?
>
>     Hard to imagine a project won't have something to do with $3K,
>     so I imagine you'll get applications from all of the projects if
>     the proposals take less than an hour or two to put together.
>
>     - Bob
>
>     > On Mar 16, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Gina Helfrich <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Call for Proposals - Small Development Grants
>     >
>     > NumFOCUS is asking for proposals from its sponsored and affiliated
>     projects for targeted small development projects with a clear
>     benefit to those projects. This call is motivated by the success of
>     our 2016 end-of-year fundraising drive; we want to direct the
>     donated funds to our projects in a way that has impact and
>     visibility to donors and the wider community.
>     >
>     > There are no restrictions on what the funding can be used for.
>     Whether it’s code development, documentation work, an educational,
>     sustainability or diversity initiative, or yet something else, we
>     trust the projects themselves to understand what they need and
>     explain that need in the proposal.
>     >
>     > Available Funding:
>     >       • Up to $3,000 per proposal
>     >       • Allocated funding is $9,000; depending on the number and
>     quality of proposals this may be adjusted up or down.
>     >
>     > Eligibility:
>     >       • Proposals must be approved by the leadership of a NumFOCUS
>     sponsored or affiliated project.
>     >       • Proposed work must have a clear outcome, achievable within
>     2017.
>     >       • The call is open to applicants from any nationality and
>     can be performed at any university, institute or business worldwide
>     (US export laws permitting).
>     >
>     > Timeline:
>     >       • Mid-March 2017: Call for Proposals released
>     >       • 3 April 2017: deadline for proposal submissions
>     >       • 17 April: successful proposals announced
>     >
>     > --
>     > Dr. Gina Helfrich
>     > Communications Director, NumFOCUS
>     > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     > <a href="tel:512-222-5449" value="+15122225449" target="_blank">512-222-5449 <tel:<a href="tel:512-222-5449" value="+15122225449" target="_blank">512-222-5449>
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Re: Fwd: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)

Nathaniel Smith
On Mar 31, 2017 1:15 AM, "Ralf Gommers" <[hidden email]> wrote:


On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Ralf Gommers <[hidden email]> wrote:


On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Julian Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have two ideas under one big important topic: make numpy python3
compatible.

The first fits pretty well with the grant size and nobody wants to do it
for free:
- fix our text IO functions under python3 and support multiple
encodings, not only latin1.
Reasonably simple to do, slap encoding arguments on the functions,
generate test cases and somehow keep backward compatibility. Some
prelimary unfinished work is in https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208

I like that idea, it's a recurring pain point. Are you interested to work on it, or are you thinking to advertise the idea here to see if anyone steps up?

More thoughts on this anyone? Or preferences for this idea or the numpy.org one? Submission deadline is April 3rd and we can only put in one proposal this time, so we need to (a) make a choice between these ideas, and (b) write up a proposal.

If there's not enough replies to this so the choice is clear cut, I will send out a poll to the core devs.

Do we have anyone interested in doing the work in either case? That seems like the most important consideration to me...

-n

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Re: Fwd: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)

Julian Taylor-3
On 31.03.2017 15:51, Nathaniel Smith wrote:

> On Mar 31, 2017 1:15 AM, "Ralf Gommers" <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Ralf Gommers
>     <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>         On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Julian Taylor
>         <[hidden email]
>         <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>             I have two ideas under one big important topic: make numpy
>             python3
>             compatible.
>
>             The first fits pretty well with the grant size and nobody
>             wants to do it
>             for free:
>             - fix our text IO functions under python3 and support multiple
>             encodings, not only latin1.
>             Reasonably simple to do, slap encoding arguments on the
>             functions,
>             generate test cases and somehow keep backward compatibility.
>             Some
>             prelimary unfinished work is in
>             https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208
>             <https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208>
>
>
>         I like that idea, it's a recurring pain point. Are you
>         interested to work on it, or are you thinking to advertise the
>         idea here to see if anyone steps up?
>
>
>     More thoughts on this anyone? Or preferences for this idea or the
>     numpy.org <http://numpy.org> one? Submission deadline is April 3rd
>     and we can only put in one proposal this time, so we need to (a)
>     make a choice between these ideas, and (b) write up a proposal.
>
>     If there's not enough replies to this so the choice is clear cut, I
>     will send out a poll to the core devs.
>
>
> Do we have anyone interested in doing the work in either case? That
> seems like the most important consideration to me...
>
> -n
>

I could do the textio thing if no one shows up for numpy.org. I can
probably check again what is required in the next few days and write a
proposal.
The change will need reviewing in the end too, should that be
compensated too? It feels weird if not.
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Re: Fwd: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)

Charles R Harris


On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Julian Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
On <a href="tel:31.03.2017%2015" value="+13103201715">31.03.2017 15:51, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2017 1:15 AM, "Ralf Gommers" <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Ralf Gommers
>     <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>
>
>         On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Julian Taylor
>         <[hidden email]
>         <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>             I have two ideas under one big important topic: make numpy
>             python3
>             compatible.
>
>             The first fits pretty well with the grant size and nobody
>             wants to do it
>             for free:
>             - fix our text IO functions under python3 and support multiple
>             encodings, not only latin1.
>             Reasonably simple to do, slap encoding arguments on the
>             functions,
>             generate test cases and somehow keep backward compatibility.
>             Some
>             prelimary unfinished work is in
>             https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208
>             <https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208>
>
>
>         I like that idea, it's a recurring pain point. Are you
>         interested to work on it, or are you thinking to advertise the
>         idea here to see if anyone steps up?
>
>
>     More thoughts on this anyone? Or preferences for this idea or the
>     numpy.org <http://numpy.org> one? Submission deadline is April 3rd
>     and we can only put in one proposal this time, so we need to (a)
>     make a choice between these ideas, and (b) write up a proposal.
>
>     If there's not enough replies to this so the choice is clear cut, I
>     will send out a poll to the core devs.
>
>
> Do we have anyone interested in doing the work in either case? That
> seems like the most important consideration to me...
>
> -n
>

I could do the textio thing if no one shows up for numpy.org. I can
probably check again what is required in the next few days and write a
proposal.
The change will need reviewing in the end too, should that be
compensated too? It feels weird if not.

Note that we would also like to bring over the text input implementation from pandas. There was general agreement back when we met in (2015?) that that would be desirable, but it has never come to pass.

Chuck

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Re: Fwd: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)

Julian Taylor-3
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On 31.03.2017 16:07, Julian Taylor wrote:

> On 31.03.2017 15:51, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
>> On Mar 31, 2017 1:15 AM, "Ralf Gommers" <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Ralf Gommers
>>     <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Julian Taylor
>>         <[hidden email]
>>         <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>             I have two ideas under one big important topic: make numpy
>>             python3
>>             compatible.
>>
>>             The first fits pretty well with the grant size and nobody
>>             wants to do it
>>             for free:
>>             - fix our text IO functions under python3 and support multiple
>>             encodings, not only latin1.
>>             Reasonably simple to do, slap encoding arguments on the
>>             functions,
>>             generate test cases and somehow keep backward compatibility.
>>             Some
>>             prelimary unfinished work is in
>>             https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208
>>             <https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208>
>>
>>
>>         I like that idea, it's a recurring pain point. Are you
>>         interested to work on it, or are you thinking to advertise the
>>         idea here to see if anyone steps up?
>>
>>
>>     More thoughts on this anyone? Or preferences for this idea or the
>>     numpy.org <http://numpy.org> one? Submission deadline is April 3rd
>>     and we can only put in one proposal this time, so we need to (a)
>>     make a choice between these ideas, and (b) write up a proposal.
>>
>>     If there's not enough replies to this so the choice is clear cut, I
>>     will send out a poll to the core devs.
>>
>>
>> Do we have anyone interested in doing the work in either case? That
>> seems like the most important consideration to me...
>>
>> -n
>>
>
> I could do the textio thing if no one shows up for numpy.org. I can
> probably check again what is required in the next few days and write a
> proposal.
> The change will need reviewing in the end too, should that be
> compensated too? It feels weird if not.
>

I have decided to not do it, as it is more or less just a bugfix and I
currently do not feel capable of doing with added completion pressure.
But I have collected some of related issues and discussions:

https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/4600
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/3184
http://numpy-discussion.10968.n7.nabble.com/using-loadtxt-to-load-a-text-file-in-to-a-numpy-array-tt35992.html#a36003
# loadtxt
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208
# genfromtxt
http://numpy-discussion.10968.n7.nabble.com/genfromtxt-universal-newline-support-td37816.html
https://github.com/dhomeier/numpy/commit/995ec93
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Re: Fwd: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)

Renato Fabbri-3
maybe OT, but is has become recurrent to me for already some years
to make a very simple module for obtaining arrays related to musical elements.
All here:
scripts/ have Python/Numpy has implementions of the musical elements.
dissertacaoCorrigida.pdf holds a thorough description of the framework.

I idealize it as a module inside Numpy
but I understand it might be reasonable to do it as a Scipy kit.

I handed my doctorate a few days ago and might be willing to
put some time into this.

PS. long time no post. Hello!



On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Julian Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 31.03.2017 16:07, Julian Taylor wrote:
> On 31.03.2017 15:51, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
>> On Mar 31, 2017 1:15 AM, "Ralf Gommers" <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Ralf Gommers
>>     <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Julian Taylor
>>         <[hidden email]
>>         <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>             I have two ideas under one big important topic: make numpy
>>             python3
>>             compatible.
>>
>>             The first fits pretty well with the grant size and nobody
>>             wants to do it
>>             for free:
>>             - fix our text IO functions under python3 and support multiple
>>             encodings, not only latin1.
>>             Reasonably simple to do, slap encoding arguments on the
>>             functions,
>>             generate test cases and somehow keep backward compatibility.
>>             Some
>>             prelimary unfinished work is in
>>             https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208
>>             <https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208>
>>
>>
>>         I like that idea, it's a recurring pain point. Are you
>>         interested to work on it, or are you thinking to advertise the
>>         idea here to see if anyone steps up?
>>
>>
>>     More thoughts on this anyone? Or preferences for this idea or the
>>     numpy.org <http://numpy.org> one? Submission deadline is April 3rd
>>     and we can only put in one proposal this time, so we need to (a)
>>     make a choice between these ideas, and (b) write up a proposal.
>>
>>     If there's not enough replies to this so the choice is clear cut, I
>>     will send out a poll to the core devs.
>>
>>
>> Do we have anyone interested in doing the work in either case? That
>> seems like the most important consideration to me...
>>
>> -n
>>
>
> I could do the textio thing if no one shows up for numpy.org. I can
> probably check again what is required in the next few days and write a
> proposal.
> The change will need reviewing in the end too, should that be
> compensated too? It feels weird if not.
>

I have decided to not do it, as it is more or less just a bugfix and I
currently do not feel capable of doing with added completion pressure.
But I have collected some of related issues and discussions:

https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/4600
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/3184
http://numpy-discussion.10968.n7.nabble.com/using-loadtxt-to-load-a-text-file-in-to-a-numpy-array-tt35992.html#a36003
# loadtxt
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208
# genfromtxt
http://numpy-discussion.10968.n7.nabble.com/genfromtxt-universal-newline-support-td37816.html
https://github.com/dhomeier/numpy/commit/995ec93
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Re: Fwd: [numfocus] Grants up to $3k available to NumFOCUS projects (sponsored & affiliated)

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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Julian Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
On <a href="tel:31.03.2017%2016" value="+13103201716">31.03.2017 16:07, Julian Taylor wrote:
> On <a href="tel:31.03.2017%2015" value="+13103201715">31.03.2017 15:51, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
>> On Mar 31, 2017 1:15 AM, "Ralf Gommers" <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Ralf Gommers
>>     <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Julian Taylor
>>         <[hidden email]
>>         <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>             I have two ideas under one big important topic: make numpy
>>             python3
>>             compatible.
>>
>>             The first fits pretty well with the grant size and nobody
>>             wants to do it
>>             for free:
>>             - fix our text IO functions under python3 and support multiple
>>             encodings, not only latin1.
>>             Reasonably simple to do, slap encoding arguments on the
>>             functions,
>>             generate test cases and somehow keep backward compatibility.
>>             Some
>>             prelimary unfinished work is in
>>             https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208
>>             <https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208>
>>
>>
>>         I like that idea, it's a recurring pain point. Are you
>>         interested to work on it, or are you thinking to advertise the
>>         idea here to see if anyone steps up?
>>
>>
>>     More thoughts on this anyone? Or preferences for this idea or the
>>     numpy.org <http://numpy.org> one? Submission deadline is April 3rd
>>     and we can only put in one proposal this time, so we need to (a)
>>     make a choice between these ideas, and (b) write up a proposal.
>>
>>     If there's not enough replies to this so the choice is clear cut, I
>>     will send out a poll to the core devs.
>>
>>
>> Do we have anyone interested in doing the work in either case? That
>> seems like the most important consideration to me...

Fair enough. Had a plan, but my weekend went a bit different than planned so couldn't follow up on it.
 
>>
>> -n
>>
>
> I could do the textio thing if no one shows up for numpy.org. I can
> probably check again what is required in the next few days and write a
> proposal.
> The change will need reviewing in the end too, should that be
> compensated too? It feels weird if not.
>

I have decided to not do it, as it is more or less just a bugfix and I
currently do not feel capable of doing with added completion pressure.

Good call Julian. I struggled with the same thing - had a designer to do the numpy.org work, but that still needed someone to do the content, review, etc. Decided not to try to take that on, because I'm already struggling to keep up.

 
But I have collected some of related issues and discussions:

Thanks, I'm sure that'll be of use at some point.

Ralf
 

https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/4600
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/3184
http://numpy-discussion.10968.n7.nabble.com/using-loadtxt-to-load-a-text-file-in-to-a-numpy-array-tt35992.html#a36003
# loadtxt
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4208
# genfromtxt
http://numpy-discussion.10968.n7.nabble.com/genfromtxt-universal-newline-support-td37816.html
https://github.com/dhomeier/numpy/commit/995ec93
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